men are pigs... ;)
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Are you applied this as General Woman charactor and General Man charactor...i do feel that there is nothing "general" for the gender. I should said it's all very based on individual. Those charactor that you mentioned on woman...it did applied to man as well. For example "change their mind million times", this is not woman priority...It does appeared in MAN charactor too. That's what i meant here...Based on individual not gender....The book is not worth buying...wasting of money...
Point #1: Every man moans about wanting a woman who would think and behve like a guy. But when u do get one, you'll probably find that you wont like it very much.
Point #2: It is extremely unfair to generalise women like that. [To noodlez: The fact that you want to distribute this piece of trash to everyone on the street proves that you're generalizing - to the extreme.]
Point #3: Men are more subceptible to being unfaithful than women (hey, everyone's generalising anyway). If they're not getting sex from their women they'd just go out and find other women who will.
Point #4: Nine out of ten men will tell you that they wouldnt mind having a woman make the first move. Fine. Very good. I like that attitude (I'm female, by the way). However, what they say and how they actually react after a woman HAS made the first move are two very different things. Most men have an in-built phobia about not being the first one to make a move. The moment a gal shows interest they lose interest, and if we DON'T show interest they complain that we play hard to get. WTF?
Point #5: We ARE nice. Of course there are self-serving bitches in the world (there are also self-serving bastards, please be reminded), but if you CHOOSE to get involved with them (and most probably for the sex, then that's your own bloody fault anyway), so who the hell are you to complain?
Point #6: If men only had the sense to find/look for women who dont act according to the list, they wouldnt be bitching about it in the first place, dont you think so? (and trust me, there are plenty of sensible women out there. The only problem is that most men's brains are located between their legs, which then results in them going for the bitches, which then results in the above-mentioned (men's) bitching).
So lay down all the bloody laws you want. I say that if you already have a really great lady, you'll find no need to lay down those laws at all, or even think about doing so. She'd have enough common sense not to act like that already, or to pick a guy who, instead of going out and LOOKING for her, chooses instead to bitch about the more undesirable ones of her species.
Note: all of the above (ok, maybe excluding #2) is merely a reply to the article, not a personal attack on noodlez.
Yeah, the list is both generalizing woman in whole as well as in individual (contradictions eh *grin*). Men do change their mind millions of time, men are inconsistent, men do give out mixed signals, and etc (you get the deal here) but statistically speaking, women do most of that more than men does. And again it all comes to do the individual.
The list is generalizing women because it was indeed intended for women to read in masses. But when you (a woman) are reading it, it becomes personal or individual. Not many women will have all 9 traits that were stated in the article (the last one isn’t really a trait) but most women will have one or two of it. That is why the article has to be in general or otherwise it would be meaningless. It’s an article directed to many different individuals cramped into a single article (I am not sure if that makes any sense).
And the truth is the article wasn’t meant to belittle women in any way. Although the article was written by someone else, I take responsibility for any comments or criticisms heading my way because I am aware that by publishing the article in this blog, I am indirectly endorsing the idea of the article.
Most men are pigs; you hear that all the time. And I agree that men are indeed pigs but not all. Some are pigs and some are humans. Some are bastards and some are nice. Whenever I read something negative about men, I like to smile or laugh. Some women will say that her man is not sensitive enough, not enough of a man or he forgets her birthday and etc. All these are true that women do not like all those in a man. But am I going to refute her and say that women can be insensitive too and etc? Sure I can, but what’s the point?
But instead, I take pleasure in knowing that I am not or do not have the traits that make me a pig or a bastard. And if I do have those traits, instead of “neutralizing” it by saying that women too have those traits, I’d be better off reflecting on myself and scrap off those negative traits. I know I’ll have a field day coming up with an article titled “women are pigs too” but do 2 wrongs make 1 right? An eye for an eye? And if I’m too consumed with trying to win the “battle of the sexes”, fighting each bad words being said about men, I’d be too blinded to be able to reflect on myself and see whether I am actually a decent guy or am I just a plain old bastard pig.
People who do not know me would think that all I have in mind is a twisted vengeance towards women. And that I have freaking big male ego that I just can’t help stomping on women like they are a piece of crap under my shoe. But people who know me know that I have much respect for women. All my “generalizations” about women are either being meant as a joke or as a provocation of thought. A provocation for women to think whether it is right to use a guy to get what they want or is it honest to milk man into cheese and etc (you know what I mean). A provocation to get them to reflect on themselves and see if they are nice or… not nice.
I’ve let a few people read the book “Sex-Ploytation” and so far, only 1 girl actually enjoys reading it because although the book is kinda “nasty” but she knows that she ain’t one of what the author described and she too knows that there are indeed girls who trade sex for money (or is a self-serving bitch). The other girls who read it don’t really give me any response. Maybe either it’s because they feel they are what the authors described in the book or maybe they just don’t fancy a guy “attacking” their fellow sisters.
The book may be one sided but the book is based on actual facts and true real life experience. And I know if any feminists were to read the book, they’ll find a way to refute everything, no doubt about it but you still have to accept the reality that it doesn’t change the truth in the book. There are women have no idea that some of their actions are not very much appreciated by the opposite sex. Instead of seeing articles like this as a female-bashing agenda, why not take it as a point of view from the male perspective. There are always 2 sides of a story. There’s a reason why I watch Eve’s Diary and why I read CLEO, ok maybe 2 reasons. First reason is that I get to laugh because it’s amusing in a way for me (I am serious, it’s amusing *grin*) and second, I get to view a certain issue from a female perspective. Sometimes it could be a little confusing but still I get a glimpse on how women see things.
There are truths in every word the article/book has to say and so do in everything you all have to say. There are self-serving bitches in this world and there are stupid bastard pigs too. There is no denying in all that. The questions that you should ask are; are you pissed/mad/angry because what that has been said are true about (for) you OR it’s not true in your case but you just can’t stand having a guy belittling on your fellow sisters OR are you going to take pleasure in accepting the truth about what has been said and in knowing (proudly?) that you are not a self-serving bitch?
[P/S: And I want to emphasize on this again, I do love women ;)]
2 Comments:
eh, can u lend me a copy of the book?
-mich-
By Anonymous, at October 8, 2004 at 3:57 PM
sure... i'll pass it to u when i see u :)
By noodlez, at October 11, 2004 at 2:05 AM
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